millershollow ([info]millershollow) wrote,
2009-09-25 12:44:00

Day 5

Howls went up through out the night, as the wolves were celebrating the death of the SEER. [info]cambler lay awake in his bed listening to the madness outside. But he did not lay awake for long. The wolves came through front and back doors, ripping them off hinges, flinging furniture aside, and bursting into the bedroom of [info]cambler.

After the carnage, they crept out under the guise of the moon, and began heading back to their respective cottages. One, however, turned down the wrong alleyway. A figure materialized out of the darkness, "Silly [info]sonicbunny, life is for villagers!" the figure said, as a large knife glinted in the moonlight. The wolves eyes went wide, and it's howls of joy became howls of anguish.

SUMMARY: [info]cambler the VILLAGER is DEAD! [info]sonicbunny the WOLF is DEAD!

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[info]millershollow

September 25 2009, 19:51:06 UTC 2 years ago

Since it's Friday, today's "day" ends at 11 am Monday.

[info]dragonattack

September 25 2009, 19:51:27 UTC 2 years ago

First: Two minutes is insufficient time to react. Unfortunately, this truth got our seer killed. We've discovered that Snoopy is not a wolf. That's all we're getting from our late Seer.

Second: High Five for the Serial Killer. Two wolves is great work.

[info]millershollow

September 25 2009, 19:53:29 UTC 2 years ago

Re: Second - well christ, somebody's got to do it, you guys can't kill a wolf to save your lives :)

[info]logophylia1

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[info]lorriet

September 25 2009, 19:53:57 UTC 2 years ago

At least the serial killer is doing something right. :P

Coming up after this break: My Boyfriend, the Werewolf!

Now, to go peruse [info]sonicbunny's voting patterns...

[info]dragonattack

September 25 2009, 21:24:27 UTC 2 years ago

His voting patterns are actively worthless :P The only thing that could be assumed from it is that Faymar is unlikely to be a werewolf, but there is no certainty. He was whimsical in his voting, and never even got included in dogpiles. He was just a little too willing to toady up to EvilBen, and so he got cut (quite literally).

[info]logophylia1

September 25 2009, 19:54:05 UTC 2 years ago

Well - I'm comforted by the fact that cambler was not an afflicted or a special, as I REALY debated hard whether to use my save. Sorry cambler, but there was only a one in five chance you were an afflicted, the bguard or the martyr.

The Serial Killer ...hmmmm ... i'm tempted to vote him/ her a MEDAL at this point, or maybe the Sheriff badge ??? Wow ....

After that last minute voting, I was gogin to ask Bunnny and Rusty to pony up why the sudden changes of votes at the last minute, but now I'll ask Rusty alone.

Untill i hear more compelling reasoning against it:
VOTE rustymaggot

[info]rustymaggot

September 26 2009, 03:08:42 UTC 2 years ago

which vote are you curious about? i dont blame you for your suspitions. ive made a few bad calls this game.

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[info]logophylia1

September 25 2009, 19:57:33 UTC 2 years ago

OK - how do you guys feel about putting the poison up to village vote ?

I'm not against the idea - but lets not poison unless we have strong reason to ?

[info]dragonattack

September 25 2009, 20:04:22 UTC 2 years ago

The poison is your final act of defiance. You can get suggestions, but honestly, you're going to want to make the call, because you're the only one we KNOW is trustworthy. Snoopy has a good likelihood of being trustworthy, but not a certainty. Serial Killers show blank for the seer, but we know he's not a wolf. Also, you can only use one potion a night, and so we kinda need you to survive to get you to your full effect. I'm contemplating whether it is worth the martyr's life to ensure the poison gets delivered, and I'm coming to the conclusion it probably isn't, at this point in the game. It will depend somewhat on the lynch. If we get the serial killer today, everything becomes simple. If we get a wolf, we're in good shape. If we get a villager, honestly having another special in the wings may be more valuable when it comes down to the wire.

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[info]logophylia1

September 25 2009, 20:01:13 UTC 2 years ago

And since the last listkeeper is now dead ...

The LIVING:

dragonattack
evilben
faymar
flipperchaz
gnatdbug
gwydion82
hungryandhollow
logophylia1
lorriet
maniakes
ragnarok_now
rustymaggot
snoopyh42
slojae
smurfetts_lamb
stride

The Specials Remaining:

Wolf (x2)
Witch
Bodyguard
Martyr
Ghost
Serial Killer
Afflicted (possibly)

The DEAD :

gorillashaman: Villager
myshanter: Villager
cuddlycthulhu: Cupid
baronlaw: Ralph Nader
maniakes: Villager
chessiekitty: Werewolf
ophiomancer: Hunter
slownewsday: Villager
flowen: Villager
starryshadows: Villager, lover
sylvan: Villager, lover
cambler: Villager
giantlaser: The Seer
sonicbunny: Werewolf



[info]logophylia1

September 25 2009, 20:03:45 UTC 2 years ago

ALSO:
The RULES:
http://millershollow.livejournal.com/90566.html

Miller's hollow index:
http://ma8p.com/~adam/ljgames/millershollow/

[info]faymar

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[info]snoopyh42

September 25 2009, 20:17:57 UTC 2 years ago

On one hand, Yay! Backed up as being a villager by a reliable source!

On the other hand, Boo! We lynched our seer!

For now, I'm sticking with my old standby that she's evil and has pointy teeth. vote stride

[info]smurfetts_lamb

September 26 2009, 18:01:14 UTC 2 years ago

Give your reasons for voting Stride.

If you are the cereal killer then you are doing a good job of finding wolves in which case we should listen to your instincts on voting.
If you are a regular villager then why vote stride?

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[info]ragnarok_now

September 25 2009, 20:46:39 UTC 2 years ago

Sheesh, how hard is it for the Seer to keep a low profile?

vote rustymaggot for last-minute tie.

[info]gwydion82

September 25 2009, 21:38:20 UTC 2 years ago

because my last instinct was spot on, and the math is still stacked against us, vote [info]rustymaggot

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[info]lorriet

September 25 2009, 21:39:17 UTC 2 years ago

Does anyone have a read on Gwidyon (sp?)? He voted for sonicbunny early in Day 4, and never altered it, with pretty flimsy arguments. Maybe it was a smokescreen vote? Like "I can't be a wolf, I voted to lynch SB!"

Grasping at straws again, but it's just a thought.

[info]dragonattack

September 25 2009, 21:56:03 UTC 2 years ago

The fact that he volunteered to be lynched yesterday redeems him somewhat in my eyes. He survived on a fluke with the lover's death, and then offered to make it right. We may need to kill him later, but for now, I don't think he fought hard enough to be anything other than a villager. That's just my take, however. Discussion always welcome.

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[info]evilben

September 25 2009, 23:02:17 UTC 2 years ago

I'm still in game. Sorry, had personal issues and considered dropping out.

Sorry, Logophylia. I elected not to log in the remainder of the day, so I couldn't change my vote.

Um, go Cerial Killer. Find those doggies.

Dunno who to vote for. Uh, Sonicbunny did thank Lorriet for advice and she has been keeping a low key. Admittedly, that's really thin. Too thin for me to cast a vote on at this time.

[info]gnatdbug

September 26 2009, 04:35:19 UTC 2 years ago

Traditionally when the voting analysis of wolves is done, we have more to work with. As it has been pointed out neither wolf lost so far has a lot to use as a pattern.

They both were acting in low-key quiet wolf mode, but none of the really vocal people this game have given me the good noisy wolf vibe.

[info]rustymaggot

September 26 2009, 05:15:47 UTC 2 years ago

BEFORE WE MAKE ANOTHER MISTAKE

so far we villagers havent got much right. i think its time to come to terms with how bad we are doing. our specials are waiting till the last minute( minute and what? 40 odd seconds?) to reveal that they need to live. so much time is wasted by not having this info in time to react. if the witch or seer had come out at the beginning of whatever day they were outed then we could have rationally chosen a better lynching subject instead of scrambling to change votes in time.

ok, heres the deal, im the bodyguard. i protected ophiomancer a day early because she said something that i noticed peculiar. at that time i thought she was the seer and i protected her thinking the wolves would also notice the peculiar arrangement of words. they did not, or they did not choose to act. i was suprised when she claimed hunter but not suprised that she was a special character. there was nothing i could do for her because i cant protect same person twice in a row.

i protected hungry and hollow. as to why, i cannot remember. i dont think i had time to think so i went with him for no valid reason.

something cambler said made me believe him and i suspected cambler was the seer and he wanted giant laser lynched. i went with that lead and was going to protect cambler, but.... giantlaser outed himself last minute. yeah i know, last freaking minute. i immediately tried to save him with an abstain vote change but the clock showed me 4 minutes late. i had hoped for a tie so we could have time to vote properly and chose a good suspect to kill. didnt happen. at that point i asked about if giant laser had lived or not and said if he did live i would protect him. i also said that if giant laser was dead then id like to change my mind and protect no one.

now for the current events. i did not save anyone last night. i was positive the wolves would assume our witch was protected. no point in protecting her. i called that one. bout the only thing ive done right. my confidence is a bit bruised after making a timing error with one special and changing my mind about another. time will tell how i did protecting hungryandhollow. with my luck, he was a wolf.

why am i outing myself? because i am confident that my big mouth will get me killed if i try to talk my way out of the line of fire. ill start digging a hole, i know, ive seen me do it.

i also believe that my worth to the village is better spent by giving the gift of a weekend long debate where we arent chasing shadows and rumors or arguing to kill a special.

if i am not lynched, i can guarantee one save. now my role is made public. i need my fellow villagers to make decisions with as much info as possible and to have that info as early as possible.

[info]evilben

September 26 2009, 05:48:53 UTC 2 years ago

Re: BEFORE WE MAKE ANOTHER MISTAKE

Alright, Rusty. I'll bite. Who do you think we should kill?

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[info]slojae

September 26 2009, 07:35:51 UTC 2 years ago

we have all weekend to debate... and I work monday 9-5 so won't be around for last minute announcements so my leanings are either a)gywidion82 from lorriet's logic... b)stride because of the last minute switch... or ragnorak_now(sp) because hes been unusually quiet

although dragonattack being first to cheers the cereal killer might be tootin his own horn... and thats one less of us to die each night (except his track record as the wolf version of van helsingis pretty good... how long will those guesses last?)

[info]slojae

September 26 2009, 07:40:42 UTC 2 years ago

do we know if the afflicted is dead if the wolves don't eat him/her?

[info]slojae

September 26 2009, 08:51:04 UTC 2 years ago

since he's the only who's voted for me,and i'm buzzed i'm gonna vote dragonattack

i'msure once reason andlogic come back i'll think of something... but we havetill monday

[info]slojae

September 27 2009, 07:34:17 UTC 2 years ago

here i am again trying to make sense of all of this...

unvote dragonattack
vote gwidion82

him being a newbie doesn't make him not a special... we've got to get rid of them... and being buzzed isn't enough reason to vote against someone even if i am just an innocent villager

[info]slojae

September 27 2009, 08:05:11 UTC 2 years ago

vote gwydion82
guess it didn't regeister

[info]smurfetts_lamb

September 27 2009, 17:15:35 UTC 2 years ago

BTW... Looking at who he went after, I am pretty sure the cereal killer is just as shocked as everyone else that he keeps getting wolves. It happens that two of the wolves outed so far have been small furry animals. But he also went after opiomancer and myshanter in other days. I see not pattern to this.

[info]smurfetts_lamb

September 27 2009, 17:17:09 UTC 2 years ago

I also think at this point we need to look at which two people keep consistently voting for the same one person. A team of votes so to speak.

And I know most of my comments are cryptic. This is truly how my brain works. It is not on purpose.

[info]snoopyh42

September 27 2009, 18:26:10 UTC 2 years ago

unvote stride
vote abstain

[info]gwydion82

September 28 2009, 01:54:53 UTC 2 years ago

my last two votes and unvote from yesterday have still not shown up on the feed. vote [info]stride. Lets see if it gets this one. I hope everyone is seeing my logic and arguments, because I think it's likely I'm getting lynched tomorrow morning. I'm trying to get as much of my thought process out there as possible, to help you on, once you see I'm a regular villager.

[info]logophylia1

September 28 2009, 03:38:48 UTC 2 years ago

State of the Village Adress

We have 15 folks alive in the town today.

2 of them are murderous wolves. One is a serial killer.

Of those who are NOT wolves we have a few key players left. The Witch the Bodyguard and the Martyr all have abilities that may directly advantage the villagers in surviving the predations of the wolves and the killer.

We have a villager who will rise as a ghost after death to communicate with us from beyond the veil. It is IMPORTANT TO NOTE: this has NO game effect. The ghost does not count as a villager after death and cannot vote for lynching. They simply are allowed to continue commenting to the living. The death of the ghost is EXACTLY the same as the death of a vanilla villager for game purposes.

We also MAY still have an afflicted among us (we have not, to my knowledge received a confirmation that the afflicted status is revealed when the afflicted is lynched).

logophylia has claimed to be the witch and is unopposed in this claim after a full night
snoopyh42 has been confirmed as having villiager status to the seer (but may still be an afflicted)
rustymaggot has claimed to be the bodyguard, but has not had a night cycle to test his claim

The remaining "unidentified" players are:

dragonattack
evilben
faymar
flipperchaz
gnatdbug
gwydion82
hungryandhollow
lorriet
ragnarok_now
slojae
smurfetts_lamb
stride

[info]logophylia1

September 28 2009, 03:52:21 UTC 2 years ago

Re: State of the Village Adress

OK - SO - this is my first game of Miller's online - so I can't say for sure of the three townperson's specials is most important: Witch, BGuard or Martyr, BUT - I think the BGuard outweighs the Martyr.

Sorry, Martyr.

But as has been posted before, the Martyr exists to die to save someone else. They could use that ability to save a normal townsperson, but I think that's less useful than saving the BGuard, and probably the Witch.

I'm going to go with the idea that Rusty IS the BGuard for now, as I have some reason to believe it, and NO reason right now to doubt. Keep that is mind for the rest of my analysis.

BGuard didn't save last night, so the save is open tonight. My save is still unused. I can save ANYONE besides the serial killer's victim, and at this point, I think the serial killer is more on our side than against it (... wow ...)SO - If BGaurd covers me, Martyr covers BGuard, most we loose is the Martyr, which we WILL loose eventually anyway.

UNFORTUNATELY without the seer, we are in a race to try to guess out the wolves before they gut the town. We should preserve the BGuard as long as possible.

As for who to lynch ... I've got nothing right now :( I'm a VERY cautious lyncher, and maybe I shouldn't be (it's a game after all), but there it is. Probably the reason I have opposed electing a sheriff, and why i would be a horrible one for the position as well.

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[info]hungryandhollow

September 28 2009, 04:55:19 UTC 2 years ago

With no better leads, I'm going to vote gwydion82, and I may not be on tomorrow before the lynching to change it.

[info]smurfetts_lamb

September 28 2009, 05:18:56 UTC 2 years ago

So something has been getting to me about how everything is being phrased.
I vote hungryandhollow

I was wrong about giantlaser so i suggest you not follow my vote with your own unless you have good reason. I won't be back online til after the vote tomorrow.

[info]evilben

September 28 2009, 05:54:50 UTC 2 years ago

So, I've compiled a program that takes people's voting history, past roles, gender, shoe size, and credit score and determines the ones most likely to be a wolf.

Not really. Just making fun of past game silliness.

Anyways, VOTE GWYDION82 because I voted against them before it was cool. They gave me a bad vibe in the pit of my stomache from the beginning. They're a wolf or I have gas.

Another suspicion is Lorriet. She's been very "quiet wolfy" and has yet to answer my challenge. If I get eaten for that observation, keep that in mind.

[info]gwydion82

September 28 2009, 15:47:29 UTC 2 years ago

you have gas.

[info]faymar

September 28 2009, 09:06:59 UTC 2 years ago

When chessiekitty was outed as a wolf I checked her votes but they were safe bets (gorillashaman and slownewsday)

Sonicbunny's votes are a bit more interesting:
flipperchaz
gwydion82
faymar
faymar
logophylia

Now I know I'm not a wolf (I understand that for the rest of view, that's open to question) and logophylia has said he's the witch. Voting for non-wolves seems a sensible option for a wolf so for the moment, I'm going to presume that everyone that sonicbunny voted for is not a wolf.

Snoppyh42 has been confirmed a villager and Rustymaggot says he's the bodyguard so that leaves us with the following:

dragonattack
evilben
gnatdbug
hungryandhollow
lorriet
ragnarok_now
slojae
smurfetts_lamb
stride


[info]faymar

September 28 2009, 09:36:06 UTC 2 years ago

Voting patterns:


dragonattack
gorillashaman
slownewsday
gwydion82
stride
slojae

evilben
ragnorok_now
logophylia1
gwydion82
logophylia1
gwydion82

gnatdbug
gorillashaman
stride
stride
stride
novote

hungryandhollow
novote
giantlaser
gwydion82
logophylia1
gwydion

lorriet
cambler
baronlaw
novote
stride
novote

ragnarok_now
slownewsday
novote
sylvan
novote
rustymaggot

slojae
gorillashaman
baronlaw
ophiomancer
giantlaser
dragonattack

smurfetts_lamb
novote
baronlaw
ophiomancer
giantlaser
hungryandhollow

stride
maniakes
abstain
abstain
giantlaser
novote

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