millershollow ([info]millershollow) wrote,
2007-07-20 11:22:00

Day 5

The village was awaken by a great wailing come morning. Disturbed and upset villagers one by one poked their heads out of their cottages and hesitantly made their way to the cries. As they approached [info]evilben's cottage they found it surrounded by over a dozen [info]evilben clones all sobbing and crying. A suck walked jubilently through the throng of clones. The bird pulled out a napkin and tucked it under his chin as he pulled out a fork and knife, licking his bill hungrily. He quacked to the clones, who still upset and crying grabbed the mauled form of [info]evilben and began dragging him off to the Evil Ben Snack Factory.

As the town was watching, several clones ran forward and roughly grabbed [info]dragonattack, manacled him and led him away to jail.

SUMMARY: [info]evilben the VILLAGER is DEAD!

SUMMARY: [info]dragonattack is SEQUESTERED!

Rule Note: This day will not end until 11am Monday morning. Yes it is a long day.

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[info]chirpy_cricket

July 20 2007, 18:32:14 UTC 4 years ago

*chirp* *chirp* *chirp*

[info]stride

July 20 2007, 18:38:45 UTC 4 years ago

Daaaaaaaaang.

Vote [info]makellan

[info]cambler

July 20 2007, 18:45:38 UTC 4 years ago

Why?

[info]stride

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[info]baronlaw

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[info]hungryandhollow

July 20 2007, 18:50:05 UTC 4 years ago

This is just getting ridiculous.

[info]baronlaw

July 20 2007, 18:51:15 UTC 4 years ago

Damyum, I can't figure out why they'd eat him? Who was he aiming at last?

[info]cambler

July 20 2007, 18:55:42 UTC 4 years ago

So help me, I'm guessing that the wolves aren't newbies and are playing this randomly on purpose.

We might as well roll dice to see who we kill.

This is VERY frustrating. Without protection for a seer, we're firing blind.

Lunchtime... I'm going to give this more thought.

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[info]hungryandhollow

July 20 2007, 18:56:02 UTC 4 years ago

Evilben accused these three people yesterday:

Chessiekitty
Gorillashaman
Cambler

And believed it would get him eaten. He did, in fact, get eaten. But I have trouble believing Gorillashaman in particular would be so ham-handed - I know it's the Wine In Front Of Me thing, but at the same time, it seems too blunt. But at the same time, I don't have anyone else, except Makellan, who seems vaguely suspicious to me. Unfortunately, with him getting married, he won't have much chance to defend himself.

So... another Day 1 all over again?

[info]stride

July 20 2007, 19:00:20 UTC 4 years ago

The question is...how do we get away from the Day 1 syndrome? Do we put everyone on the stand and question them so we at least have a starting foundation for the next day?

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[info]hungryandhollow

July 20 2007, 18:56:58 UTC 4 years ago

Also, as today is SEVERUS SNAPE FRIEND OR FOE MOTHERFUCKER Day, once I get off work I'll probably be pretty quiet.

[info]daedalus4096

July 20 2007, 21:06:30 UTC 4 years ago

Work and personal stuff are keeping me very busy today, so I won't be posting much. In addition, I'm also going to be out of town most of the weekend with no internet access. As such, I'm simply going to carry over my vote from yesterday.

Vote Gorillashaman

Don't expect any further posts from me until late Sunday night.

[info]gorillashaman

July 20 2007, 21:17:43 UTC 4 years ago

baronlaw
blackbeardin
cambler
cuddlycthulhu
daedalus4096
darkjuan
devil_engine
dragonattack - Locked up
flipperchaz
gorillashaman
hungryandhollow
lorriet
makellan
ragnarok_now
stride

DEAD
amphitrite27 the HUNTER
chessiekitty the VILLAGER
evilben the VILLAGER
giantlaser the VILLAGER
gnatdbug the VILLAGER
maniakes the WITCH
myshanter the SERIAL KILLER
rustymaggot the VILLAGER
slojae the VILLAGER
sonicbunny the VILLAGER

[info]lorriet

July 20 2007, 21:53:11 UTC 4 years ago

All of my hunches have been wrong, excepting myshanter.

Maybe it's time to do the opposite.

vote baronlaw

[info]gorillashaman

July 20 2007, 21:53:13 UTC 4 years ago

btw, I'll be ren-fairing it and hanging out with my daughter this weekend, so expect my posting to be sporadic until Sunday night.

[info]hungryandhollow

July 20 2007, 22:20:17 UTC 4 years ago

It came to me while I was driving - it's an amazing strategy. If the wolves aren't doing this on purpose, I'm gonna kick my own ass for giving it away and not saving it for when I'm a wolf. The wolves aren't just eating the suspects to cause chaos - they're neutralizing the seer.

Every night, who is the seer most likely to spy on? The most suspected person who isn't lynched. So every night the wolves eat that person. If you had a 50% guess rate as to who the seer was going to spy on, you'd cut the effectiveness of the seer in half. If you got lucky you could cut it by 75% easily.

This also means that discussion is cut way down, because everyone who spoke a lot (suspects tending to speak more to defend themselves) is dead. Now normally, being quiet is just as dangerous as being loud. But no one can blame anyone for being quiet, because half of us are barely posting, and the other half are mostly posting about how they have no suspects. So now quiet wolves don't stand out.

The first kill is Gnatbug, the runner-up in votes. The second is Amphitrite, also the runner-up. The third is Giantlaser - that one I can't figure out. The fourth is Evilben, whom we requested that the Seer spy on.

Anyway, like I said, I'm not 100% sure that's what they're doing, but the pattern is definitely there. So Seer, please scan people who aren't close to being lynched, so when you come out you'll have as much info for us as possible, and not just info on dead people.

I'm still a little suspicious of Gorillashaman, but I agree that Baronlaw seems to be trying to get other people to start a Gorillashaman/Cambler bandwagon. I'm also still suspicious of Stride. So I'll vote Stride, subject to change, naturally.

P.S. I'm claiming this kill-the-seer's-targets thing as the Hungryandhollow Strategy, whether or not I'm right about the wolves using it :P

[info]ragnarok_now

July 20 2007, 22:56:00 UTC 4 years ago

I wouldn't say amazing.

Following your line of reasoning on the third day the wolves didn't eat the runner-up. The most likely senario is that said runner-up was a wolf.

The two other candidates at that time were makellan and yourself.

Again, assuming you are correct, bringing it up makes it seem unlikely that you are a wolf.

vote makellan

On the other hand, you could be trying to mislead the seer. And it is quite likely that there are other reasons for their picks.

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[info]darkjuan

July 20 2007, 22:53:41 UTC 4 years ago

I'm going to hold my vote until at least sunday. I'll need to reread some of the previous posts before I can even try to figure out what the hell is going on. My mind is pretty frazzled right now.

Also I'm still remodeling my bathroom, so I probably not be on too much this weekend.

[info]baronlaw

July 20 2007, 23:16:59 UTC 4 years ago

I see so the two people Evilben (THE VILLAGER) was aimed at, are voting against me? Color me surprised. I hope you two wolves are happy when the the rest of the villagers get around to noticing this frame up!

[info]cambler

July 20 2007, 23:30:56 UTC 4 years ago

Evilben, not being a seer, would have no way of knowing if I were a wolf, therefore your theory fails. There's no framing going on.

Someone voted for you, and so I'm following on the off chance that he's the seer, as he couldn't come out and say so even if he was.

I can be convinced to do otherwise.

It's really that simple.

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[info]makellan

July 21 2007, 04:42:46 UTC 4 years ago

Ahh, I see the evil-wolf-plan. Stride votes me out when she knows darn well that I have wedding rehearsal today and a wedding tomorrow. She thinks I won't be able to check in until Monday morning when it's far too late to save myself.
vote [info]stride
You all know she's dangerous. Her trying to lynch another villager (Me) simply proves it.

[info]makellan

July 21 2007, 04:43:36 UTC 4 years ago

oh, and that actually is likely to be it from me until Monday morning. If I ever have to do anything this complicated again, I'm hiring help.

[info]darkjuan

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[info]blackbeardin

July 23 2007, 03:49:31 UTC 4 years ago

Okay, time to weigh in. I'm the SEER, [info]makellan is NOT a wolf. The hunter already burned me on my first look ([info]maniakes) and my second has gone back to the snack factory([info]evilben) so I'll be damned if I'm going to wait till Monday morning for my third to talk himself out of a lynch, especially since I have TWO positive results.

[info]baronlaw, and [info]hungryandhollow are both lying WEREWOLVES.

vote [info]hungryandhollow

[info]darkjuan

July 23 2007, 04:52:02 UTC 4 years ago

whoa...

VOTE hungryandhollow

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[info]hungryandhollow

July 23 2007, 07:51:28 UTC 4 years ago

lolololol nice try but.... i'm the Cupid. And I'm pretty sure you can't be the cupid and a ralph nader, so unless someone corrects me on that, you're a liar. vote blackbeardin

If you don't believe I'm the Cupid, well, I can always out the lovers, but that probably does more harm than good. I don't know why a wolf not under threat of lynching would claim to be the Seer, but since I'm Cupid I don't know why the supposed Seer would say I was a wolf.

[info]blackbeardin

July 23 2007, 09:29:22 UTC 4 years ago

Well, you're sort of right...

Damn. This was my worst case scenario.

You're right, I'm a lying seer. I thought you were a wolf from a lot of your interactions with baronlaw and I thought I could blow some smoke and get you lynched without having to seer you, and maybe even get the fourth wolf to out himself. Unfortunately that wasn't the case.

However, my worst case scenario isn't all that bad(I don't think). [info]dragonattack is the other wolf I picked up. I don't think he's nader because he started the dogpile on chessiekitty on day four when the votes had started to rack up on baronlaw(you also swung your vote over to her after that). Then today when the votes started to pile up against baronlaw you pulled your vote from stride and swung over to makellan, who I knew to be a non-wolf. I figured at that point, I could risk charging you. The odds of you being a special weren't all that high. :P

unvote hungryandhollow

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[info]hungryandhollow

July 23 2007, 15:10:03 UTC 4 years ago

If there's a real Seer out there, it's probably best for them to come out now before we wind up even more confused. In the meantime, I guess I'll go along with Gorillashaman and unvote blackbeardin, and vote baronlaw

[info]blackbeardin

July 23 2007, 15:27:41 UTC 4 years ago

No, the real seer should stay hidden, unless they themselves have either three positive wolves or two positive wolves and one or more living non-wolf. If I'm a fake, we don't want to out the real seer unless they've got really good info.

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[info]baronlaw

July 23 2007, 15:23:59 UTC 4 years ago

Well I see the tide has turned against me and my one hope lies in shifting votes to my original target:

unvote makellan

vote hungryandhollow

For those of you voting marginal targets, might I prevail upon you in shifting your votes towards Hungryandhollow. Makellan I'm looking at you specifically and any of you who are currently voting for me.

[info]hungryandhollow

July 23 2007, 15:35:39 UTC 4 years ago

... are you claiming to not be a wolf? Because if so, voting for a villager and encouraging others to do the same is not a smart idea.

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[info]makellan

July 23 2007, 16:16:15 UTC 4 years ago

Ok, wow.
I thought I was Nader there for a while with everyone ganging up on me. I figured the Seer was hiding among my attackers.
Since I'm not a wolf, I'm going to believe [info]blackbeardin and vote [info]baronlaw

I actually really liked [info]hungryandhollow's theory on wolf kills. I think it makes a lot of sense and is likely to become a wolf strategy in future games.

Oh, and [info]hungryandhollow, why would you be a wolf target? Why would they care to kill the cupid when he's already shot his arrows? You're now just a tasty villager for a later snack who might out the lovers for them if pressed hard enough. You're more useful to them than most.

[info]hungryandhollow

July 23 2007, 16:32:08 UTC 4 years ago

because right now, I'm the only confirmed villager there is. Blackbeardin's claims of being the Seer are still pretty sketchy, which makes his claim that you're a villager pretty sketchy. That leaves me as the only special who is alive and out of the closet, so to speak. Wolves tend to target known villagers because they aren't going to be lynched - although granted, the wolf strategy in this game is so unusual I don't know what's going to happen. But historically, being a confirmed villager is like painting a target on your back.

And I don't think I'm likely to out the lovers, since I really can't imagine it doing the villagers more good than the wolves.

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[info]baronlaw

July 23 2007, 16:55:08 UTC 4 years ago

False Seer!

So assuming blackbeardin is a false seer, which will be proved after my lynching, the question is why?

If he is a villager is he just trying to steer the mob? Is he one of the other specials, say the sorcerer who also wins when the wolves win?

Let's say I am a wolf and he outed me and potentially one other wolf dragon_attack, how does this help him? In two rounds he will get two wolves and the wolves will get him and at least one more villager. Then you are back at turn 1 again. But if he is the sorcerer he kills another villager for the wolves (me!) and the wolves eat another villager say hungryandhollow. He is left alive for the villagers vengence but he pleads an honest mistake he is just a villager please don't kill him in retaliation.

I can't make sense of the strategy here, either way he dies in one turn or two. Is there any position in the game where deflecting blame away from himself and at me would help?

Unless he is the wolf!!!

unvote hungryandhollow

vote blackbeardin !!!

[info]cuddlycthulhu

July 23 2007, 17:12:04 UTC 4 years ago

*emerges from the forest with straw stuck in his tentacles*

Hi, guys, I'm back what did I...oh sweet jesus.

*reads, reads reads*

We're so screwed.

Well, I think I'll have to vote abstain, the reason behind which is that baronlaw's screwed either way and if he's not a wolf then you better believe I'll be eating [info]blackbeardin's sanity tomorrow.

[info]gorillashaman

July 23 2007, 17:17:53 UTC 4 years ago

Re: *emerges from the forest with straw stuck in his tentacles*

eating, huh?

Sounds a little wolfie to me.

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[info]flipperchaz

July 23 2007, 17:14:39 UTC 4 years ago

Vote [info]baronlaw.

[info]blackbeardin

July 23 2007, 17:27:55 UTC 4 years ago

One thing I want to mention and it's not really lynch related, but I think it's time for the magistrate to stop sequestering people everyday. It's going to either take away villager votes or protect wolves(I suppose if the SORCERER were sequestered that would be okay, but I don't think he's going to let himself be known).

[info]cambler

July 23 2007, 17:31:02 UTC 4 years ago

This being my first game playing with a sorcerer, I'm still a bit unclear on the role. If s/he were sequestered, how would that help us? They still get to spy, they'll never reveal themself, and they'll still try to lobby for votes for villagers.

Actually, that does suggest something - who's been lobbying the hardest for lynching votes for villagers?

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[info]stride

July 23 2007, 17:33:58 UTC 4 years ago

I do believe this is the weirdest game I've seen online.

I will also not change my vote as it will not affect [info]baronlaw's survival rate. I'm a little hesitant to join the lynching wagon just yet with a SEER who is and isn't and is (maybekindasorta) again. I'd rather wait and see how this round plays out.

[info]daedalus4096

July 23 2007, 17:48:30 UTC 4 years ago

Son of a...

Things seemed so much simpler last night. So, if I understand all this correctly, Blackbeardin is claiming that he's the seer, but has deliberately lied about Hungryandhollow. He does, however, still claim that Baronlaw and Dragonattack are wolves. Meanwhile, Hungryandhollow has claimed to be cupid as his defense.

At this point, I find it very unlikely that Blackbeardin is the seer. Voting for him, however, would be a waste today. If he's telling the truth this time, he'll get eaten tonight. If he's not, then he gets lynched tomorrow. While I'm tempted to join the bandwagon on Baronlaw, that would require that I believe one word out of our "seer's" mouth, which I don't. So, I'm going to go back to my previous guess...

Unvote Hungryandhollow
Vote Makellan

This shouldn't have any significant effect on the outcome of the vote, except for making me feel better that I'm not going along with the wolf's plan. If Baronlaw does turn out to be a wolf, then I'm willing to give Blackbeardin the benefit of the doubt and vote for Dragonattack tomorrow. Otherwise, he's walkin' the plank.

[info]hungryandhollow

July 23 2007, 18:07:43 UTC 4 years ago

Your summary of the morning's events isn't bad, but you forgot the [info]ragnarok_now has amnesia, [info]cambler has been kidnapped and is currently being impersonated by his own evil twin, and [info]stride just discovered she's pregnant with [info]evilben's baby.

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